Merge lp:~mguthart-x/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu-docs into lp:~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/trunk2017-07-10

I am not savvy enough to merge this into my stuff until my stuff is finished.

Evolution Calendar: I don't really know, but if I follow the link and try to do what it says, it doesn't work. i.e. I do get anywhere by clicking on the clock and then clicking on the first line.
Clicking on "about" in the calendar that seems to work, doesn't say anything about evolution.

Do the icons appear for you? My Xenial desktop doesn't show any properly, but my local HTML stuff does.

Click on top half or bottom half of slider: Agree. It is now superceeded by the below. But NOT for some apps, like firefox which still works the old way. I went to a known very long html page with firefox to confirm.

"Click the scrollbar to move the screen's position exactly where you want it": Oh yes, it works for me. But not with firefox, as stated above.

"unable to confirm disabling the new scrollbars is an option": me either. Seems to have no effect, nor is any warning or error message printed.

I can not figure out the missing icons issue on my 16.04 desktop.
They are fine on my 15.10 desktop.
The actual files themselves are there.
I did an update, just to be sure.

For others that might be reading this, I am talking about (help reference):
https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/unity-menubar-intro.html
"Status Menues"
and with "List of status menus and what they do" opened:
all the icons are not being displayed on my 16.04 desktop "help" version of the same page.

Can anyone confirm or deny for their computer?

Thanks for your work with this, Mark! These are my comments at this time:

* Evolution
Evolution means the old Evolution mail/calendar client, not the new Calendar application. If you install Evolution (not installed by default) and mark the applicable option in Time & Date -> Clock, the clock will display coming events from Evolution.

* Scrollbar
The first item doesn't seem to work for me either. I'd suggest it's removed.
Your suggestion: "Click the scrollbar to move the screen's position exactly where you want it." I don't quite understand it. The only way I have found to move the position *exactly* where I want it is to drag the slider. What did I miss?
(@Doug: Doesn't Firefox use its own scrollbar feature?)
Also, disabling it seems to not work either, so that section should better be removed as well.

* Author/editor
You shouldn't put yourself as author of pages you only edited. Usually nowadays we put "Ubuntu Documentation Team" as the editor, instead of adding to long lists of individual editors. But if you want to mark yourself as "editor" (and keep the "author" as is), I'll accept it (even if I'd prefer "Ubuntu Documentation Team"...).

Mark, can you please make those changes and remove the comments?

@Doug: The icons on unity-menubar-intro.page don't show up for me either on 16.04. Another thing to follow up after tomorrow.

Thank you Gunnar - I appreciate the guidance. Given this was my first
commit to this project, I went back and forth whether to update the author,
and ultimately decided to update it solely for visibility on who last
edited it was all.

*Scrollbar
What I was finding on my 16.04 build was if I click somewhere on the
scrollbar (not the thumb slider, but the scrollbar itself), it would move
the thumb slider to that position where I clicked - effectively moving the
screen's position to where the click was made. I did not test this in an
application like Firefox, but rather while navigating files on the hard
drive itself. I'll review the text and see whether it's valuable - if it
adds too much confusion it may be better to simply remove it.

I also am going to look back at those pages and check the terminology used
for the "system menu". If I recall it talks about the icon in the upper
right corner of the menu bar, which is fine, but I found that
shell-exit.page uses the terminology of "system menu" for navigating users.
I'd like to update the unity pages so they are consistent with that.

Thank you again. I should be able to get those changes taken care of later
this afternoon my time (in the U.S.).

Mark

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <
<email address hidden>> wrote:

> Review: Needs Fixing
>
> Thanks for your work with this, Mark! These are my comments at this time:
>
> * Evolution
> Evolution means the old Evolution mail/calendar client, not the new
> Calendar application. If you install Evolution (not installed by default)
> and mark the applicable option in Time & Date -> Clock, the clock will
> display coming events from Evolution.
>
> * Scrollbar
> The first item doesn't seem to work for me either. I'd suggest it's
> removed.
> Your suggestion: "Click the scrollbar to move the screen's position
> exactly where you want it." I don't quite understand it. The only way I
> have found to move the position *exactly* where I want it is to drag the
> slider. What did I miss?
> (@Doug: Doesn't Firefox use its own scrollbar feature?)
> Also, disabling it seems to not work either, so that section should better
> be removed as well.
>
> * Author/editor
> You shouldn't put yourself as author of pages you only edited. Usually
> nowadays we put "Ubuntu Documentation Team" as the editor, instead of
> adding to long lists of individual editors. But if you want to mark
> yourself as "editor" (and keep the "author" as is), I'll accept it (even if
> I'd prefer "Ubuntu Documentation Team"...).
>
> Mark, can you please make those changes and remove the comments?
>
> @Doug: The icons on unity-menubar-intro.page don't show up for me either
> on 16.04. Another thing to follow up after tomorrow.
> --
>
> https://code.launchpad.net/~mguthart-x/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu-docs/+merge/289008
> You are the owner of lp:~mguthart-x/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu-docs.
>

On 2016-03-16 18:45, Mark Guthart wrote:
> What I was finding on my 16.04 build was if I click somewhere on the
> scrollbar (not the thumb slider, but the scrollbar itself), it would move
> the thumb slider to that position where I clicked - effectively moving the
> screen's position to where the click was made.

I couldn't reproduce that behavior. I used "Files" and navigated to /usr/bin (which makes up a really long page).

> I also am going to look back at those pages and check the terminology used
> for the "system menu". If I recall it talks about the icon in the upper
> right corner of the menu bar, which is fine, but I found that
> shell-exit.page uses the terminology of "system menu" for navigating users.
> I'd like to update the unity pages so they are consistent with that.

Yeah, "System menu" is fine. We used that other wording when we didn't know the name of the thing, and it was never altered afterwards. Great if you change it on the Unity pages.

> I couldn't reproduce that behavior.
> I used "Files" and navigated to /usr/bin (which makes up a really long page).

Strangely enough, I used the exact same way, "Files" and /usr/bin for my tests.

We need to figure this out, because I get the behavior Mark gets.

>(@Doug: Doesn't Firefox use its own scrollbar feature?)

I guess so.

Calendar: I did set myself an appointment in whatever the default is, and it did appear when I clicked on the clock.

Tried the scrollbar again. Same behavior as previously.

If I open "Files" and navigate to /usr/bin, I see the first files/folders (alphabetically sorted). If I click the scrollbar in the middle, it takes me to the middle of *the whole list of files/folders*, which is far from the files/folders which were previously showed at the spot where I clicked.

Probably we are talking past one another.

Interesting about the new Calendar app. Apparently it is automatically synchronized with the Clock, which is news to me. Hence I think we should refer to the Calendar app instead of Evolution. (If we have time to do it...)

> Tried the scrollbar again. Same behavior as previously.
>
> If I open "Files" and navigate to /usr/bin, I see the first files/folders
> (alphabetically sorted). If I click the scrollbar in the middle, it takes me
> to the middle of *the whole list of files/folders*, which is far from the
> files/folders which were previously showed at the spot where I clicked.

Yes, exactly. And that is the "New" behavior, and is a description Mark is attempting to add with this MP.

Note the behavior is the same on 15.10.

However, go back to 14.04 and the behavior is different, going to the one page per top or bottom half click method (it isn't exactly like that but close enough). I assume that is the "old" way.

As both Mark and I have mentioned, we can not make the "old" way work as described, and so the proposal is that section should be deleted.